I think Robert Meyer Burnett may once have been far from an edgelord...but he has been moving into that territory for quite a while now, as have the Film Threat guys (whom I like personally, but seem to be really into hate-clickbaiting these days).
There is absolutely a right-libertarian-MRA subset of Star Wars fans that, for example, pre…
I think Robert Meyer Burnett may once have been far from an edgelord...but he has been moving into that territory for quite a while now, as have the Film Threat guys (whom I like personally, but seem to be really into hate-clickbaiting these days).
There is absolutely a right-libertarian-MRA subset of Star Wars fans that, for example, pre-hated the Acolyte because the showrunner was lesbian. By talking primarily to college students, your representative sample could be filtering them out; however, I suspect they are primarily NOT young people but angry aging Xers.
There certainly is a lot of pre-hate going on across pop culture along Culture War lines and I think it is right to point that out. One of the things I find frustrating about it is that it makes it hard to discuss the problems with a film like THE LAST JEDI because people assume any critique or praise is linked to pre-conceived positions.
Speaking of which, I would argue that there are just as many who are predisposed to like pre-like things that align with them politically too.
Oh yeah, and I think a lot of Andor fandom comes from that segment too. "It's more explicitly anti-fascism, therefore I love it."
The common thread between both the left and right fans of Andor, IMO, is they don't really like what Star Wars is now, and embrace, for differing reasons, the one show that to me feels furthest from it.
Follow-up question - are young people even into Star Wars any more? I know one 18 year-old fan in my social circles, though he doesn't have Disney+ and has mostly not seen the streaming shows
Seems like they are. My daughters and their friends love it. Sure, there are other properties (Minecraft and other things from their youth) that rank as high or higher, but it's still there.
I think that Star Wars, like Comic Books, trying to appeal to the fans as they age is a problem. They should do what Comic Books used to do before the "British Invasion" and the rise of Comic Books as Literature, and continually aim for younger audiences. Comics made the mistake of aging up and it's hurt them sales-wise. Star Wars looks to be making the same mistake in a lot of the properties. They should be, at least with Skywalker Saga films, aiming at the child in all of us.
I think Robert Meyer Burnett may once have been far from an edgelord...but he has been moving into that territory for quite a while now, as have the Film Threat guys (whom I like personally, but seem to be really into hate-clickbaiting these days).
There is absolutely a right-libertarian-MRA subset of Star Wars fans that, for example, pre-hated the Acolyte because the showrunner was lesbian. By talking primarily to college students, your representative sample could be filtering them out; however, I suspect they are primarily NOT young people but angry aging Xers.
There certainly is a lot of pre-hate going on across pop culture along Culture War lines and I think it is right to point that out. One of the things I find frustrating about it is that it makes it hard to discuss the problems with a film like THE LAST JEDI because people assume any critique or praise is linked to pre-conceived positions.
Speaking of which, I would argue that there are just as many who are predisposed to like pre-like things that align with them politically too.
Oh yeah, and I think a lot of Andor fandom comes from that segment too. "It's more explicitly anti-fascism, therefore I love it."
The common thread between both the left and right fans of Andor, IMO, is they don't really like what Star Wars is now, and embrace, for differing reasons, the one show that to me feels furthest from it.
Follow-up question - are young people even into Star Wars any more? I know one 18 year-old fan in my social circles, though he doesn't have Disney+ and has mostly not seen the streaming shows
Seems like they are. My daughters and their friends love it. Sure, there are other properties (Minecraft and other things from their youth) that rank as high or higher, but it's still there.
I think that Star Wars, like Comic Books, trying to appeal to the fans as they age is a problem. They should do what Comic Books used to do before the "British Invasion" and the rise of Comic Books as Literature, and continually aim for younger audiences. Comics made the mistake of aging up and it's hurt them sales-wise. Star Wars looks to be making the same mistake in a lot of the properties. They should be, at least with Skywalker Saga films, aiming at the child in all of us.