A little fun fact about the KUP: the acronym originally stood for "Keep Uneducated Players", but one of the first proofreaders pointed out that the syntax was incorrect, if I meant to suggest that players should be kept away from rules (and from rules-lawyering), I should have written "Keep players uneducated".
As it was written, KUP literally meant “keep ignorant players at the table”… and that’s not exactly what I’d call a model!
At the same time, I really loved the acronym (and the logo I had designed for it), so I decided to keep the acronym and change the underlying words to "Keep Uneducated Paradigm."
One of the things I like is that the acronym was initially translated as "Keep Uneducated Players" at the table.
I understand that you typically meant to "keep them uneducated" about the rules to prevent rules lawyering. That is also a noble goal.
So too is being able to create a "Black Box" experience for the novice gamer. I've had so many players over the years, one who is now my wife, who love to play but have little interest in learning the rules in detail. They just want to play and when you Keep those Uneducated Players, you have a more inclusive table.
It works both ways. Just has different connotations. So I think both the Keep Uneducated Players and Keep Uneducated Paradigm are good models.
To my eyes both Keep uneducated players and Keep uneducated paradigm mean the same, however I am not a native English-speaker! The concern I had is that my friend explained me that 'keep uneducated players' has a different meaning than 'keep players uneducated'... my purpose was correctly explained with the second mode while the first mode meant 'retain only the unscholarized players' which has, of course, a negative connotation. That's the reason of the change in the wording!
As a student of German, I am very sympathetic to your position. I will only add that there is a big difference between “keeping uneducated players” and “keeping only uneducated players.”
The first is, to me, positive in a way similar to, but different from, your intentions. It means that you don’t kick out your inexperienced or uneducated players. You keep them. That’s what I have done for decades. Novices are always welcome in my games and I don’t expect or require them to learn the rules. In that way I keep uneducated players.
Keeping only uneducated players would be bad, but you never wrote only so I never interpreted you as saying that.
BTW, your English is great, much better than my grammar school level German.
A little fun fact about the KUP: the acronym originally stood for "Keep Uneducated Players", but one of the first proofreaders pointed out that the syntax was incorrect, if I meant to suggest that players should be kept away from rules (and from rules-lawyering), I should have written "Keep players uneducated".
As it was written, KUP literally meant “keep ignorant players at the table”… and that’s not exactly what I’d call a model!
At the same time, I really loved the acronym (and the logo I had designed for it), so I decided to keep the acronym and change the underlying words to "Keep Uneducated Paradigm."
Funny, isn’t it?
One of the things I like is that the acronym was initially translated as "Keep Uneducated Players" at the table.
I understand that you typically meant to "keep them uneducated" about the rules to prevent rules lawyering. That is also a noble goal.
So too is being able to create a "Black Box" experience for the novice gamer. I've had so many players over the years, one who is now my wife, who love to play but have little interest in learning the rules in detail. They just want to play and when you Keep those Uneducated Players, you have a more inclusive table.
It works both ways. Just has different connotations. So I think both the Keep Uneducated Players and Keep Uneducated Paradigm are good models.
To my eyes both Keep uneducated players and Keep uneducated paradigm mean the same, however I am not a native English-speaker! The concern I had is that my friend explained me that 'keep uneducated players' has a different meaning than 'keep players uneducated'... my purpose was correctly explained with the second mode while the first mode meant 'retain only the unscholarized players' which has, of course, a negative connotation. That's the reason of the change in the wording!
As a student of German, I am very sympathetic to your position. I will only add that there is a big difference between “keeping uneducated players” and “keeping only uneducated players.”
The first is, to me, positive in a way similar to, but different from, your intentions. It means that you don’t kick out your inexperienced or uneducated players. You keep them. That’s what I have done for decades. Novices are always welcome in my games and I don’t expect or require them to learn the rules. In that way I keep uneducated players.
Keeping only uneducated players would be bad, but you never wrote only so I never interpreted you as saying that.
BTW, your English is great, much better than my grammar school level German.