I am both honored and happy to meet a way to play by means of the KUP model! I will re-post other old posts on that topic... and yes, of course, I still need to draft the KUP manifesto! Thanks for sharing my view, Chistian!
"comments without spoiler on the one moment that annoyed me."
was it the extra ending?
The archetype of a rom-com used to be no sex, keep them apart most of the movie. When my beat was seeing everything, though, all the modern entries had it at the halfway mark or so. We're talking movies starring Ryan Reynolds, Matthew McConaughey, Freddie Prinze Jr, Angelina Jolie, Kate Hudson...that became the new trope. But it seems we are over that now.
Yes. The extra ending was unnecessary. I get why they did that, and Happy Death Day does something similar, but the story was already resolved.
As for the sex in romcoms era, very often in those films the sex is an obstacle to the relationship. This is especially true of the Ryan Reynolds (the one that got away film Definitely, Maybe) and Kate Hudson’s. I am wondering which Prinze romcom he had sex with the love interest before the end of the movie. Not She’s All That because the whole Dean subplot depends entirely n her innocence and in Summer Catch they are stopped by the love interest’s father.
Speaking of Definitely, Maybe. While I enjoy the film in general, it has one of the dumbest romantic bonding scenes ever with the “my cigarettes are better than your corporate cigarettes” scene. That scene was on my mind when I watched Thank You for Smoking again a while back.
in answer to the Prinze question, Boys and Girls and Down to You, if I recall correctly.
I do wonder with heart eyes if that ending is really "unnecessary," or if it's just that we don't like it. I don't tend to like when Scream movies pull the same thing, though obviously lots of people do.
But I did so like the way it was subverting the final "run to the airport" cliche before that had to kick in...
Down to You? Wow that's a stroll down memory lane. I think that one fits in with the "sex before meeting of true minds causes problems" genre as well. It tries to straddle the gap between a college coming of age/learning responsibility story like Noah Baumbach's Kicking and Screaming (not the soccer movie) and the wave of teen romantic films that were coming out in the late 90s early 2000s.
They were a real mixed bag, but some were fantastic in large part because they had solid foundations Clueless had Emma, She's All That had Pygmalion, 10 Things I Hate About You had Taming of the Shrew. Down to You had the corporate development team transforming an Indie Kicking and Screaming style film into a Rom Com. It ended up being similar to Reality Bites (in that it didn't hit hard enough emotionally) while never really fitting in with the genre the studio mandated it conform to.
Don't get me wrong, Summer Catch isn't great either. It takes place in the 90s/00s but has a conflict out of 1954. "I'm sorry, you cannot date this young man whose father owns a house, has a successful local business, and raised one son who owns the most successful bar in town, because...ahem, 1950s class issues that were mocked in the 1930s film It Happened One Night." But the film is saved, in my opinion, by Matthew Lillard and Brittany Murphy who are just fun to watch and the moments between Prinze's character and his brother also hit okay. It's a fun baseball movie, but a mid-to-low-romantic comedy. All that said, I watch it at least twice a year.
It's a huge guilty pleasure for me and I have found that I really like watching Freddie Prinze Jr. Maybe it's the fact that he did a DC Heroes live play role playing game campaign a while back, or maybe it's that he just gives of "he's a nice guy and a hard worker in the industry" vibes. I'm on Team Prinze and now I'm going to rewatch a film with a 3% Rotten Tomatoes score because I kind of want him and the cast to get the $0.03 in residuals they'll get from my purchase.
I hated Prinze with a white-hot passion when I had to watch all his rom-coms. As a middle-aged man, and a guy who worked writing WWE for over a year just because he wanted to, he has my respect now.
I am both honored and happy to meet a way to play by means of the KUP model! I will re-post other old posts on that topic... and yes, of course, I still need to draft the KUP manifesto! Thanks for sharing my view, Chistian!
Thanks for the mention, Christian! :D
"comments without spoiler on the one moment that annoyed me."
was it the extra ending?
The archetype of a rom-com used to be no sex, keep them apart most of the movie. When my beat was seeing everything, though, all the modern entries had it at the halfway mark or so. We're talking movies starring Ryan Reynolds, Matthew McConaughey, Freddie Prinze Jr, Angelina Jolie, Kate Hudson...that became the new trope. But it seems we are over that now.
Yes. The extra ending was unnecessary. I get why they did that, and Happy Death Day does something similar, but the story was already resolved.
As for the sex in romcoms era, very often in those films the sex is an obstacle to the relationship. This is especially true of the Ryan Reynolds (the one that got away film Definitely, Maybe) and Kate Hudson’s. I am wondering which Prinze romcom he had sex with the love interest before the end of the movie. Not She’s All That because the whole Dean subplot depends entirely n her innocence and in Summer Catch they are stopped by the love interest’s father.
Speaking of Definitely, Maybe. While I enjoy the film in general, it has one of the dumbest romantic bonding scenes ever with the “my cigarettes are better than your corporate cigarettes” scene. That scene was on my mind when I watched Thank You for Smoking again a while back.
in answer to the Prinze question, Boys and Girls and Down to You, if I recall correctly.
I do wonder with heart eyes if that ending is really "unnecessary," or if it's just that we don't like it. I don't tend to like when Scream movies pull the same thing, though obviously lots of people do.
But I did so like the way it was subverting the final "run to the airport" cliche before that had to kick in...
Down to You? Wow that's a stroll down memory lane. I think that one fits in with the "sex before meeting of true minds causes problems" genre as well. It tries to straddle the gap between a college coming of age/learning responsibility story like Noah Baumbach's Kicking and Screaming (not the soccer movie) and the wave of teen romantic films that were coming out in the late 90s early 2000s.
They were a real mixed bag, but some were fantastic in large part because they had solid foundations Clueless had Emma, She's All That had Pygmalion, 10 Things I Hate About You had Taming of the Shrew. Down to You had the corporate development team transforming an Indie Kicking and Screaming style film into a Rom Com. It ended up being similar to Reality Bites (in that it didn't hit hard enough emotionally) while never really fitting in with the genre the studio mandated it conform to.
Don't get me wrong, Summer Catch isn't great either. It takes place in the 90s/00s but has a conflict out of 1954. "I'm sorry, you cannot date this young man whose father owns a house, has a successful local business, and raised one son who owns the most successful bar in town, because...ahem, 1950s class issues that were mocked in the 1930s film It Happened One Night." But the film is saved, in my opinion, by Matthew Lillard and Brittany Murphy who are just fun to watch and the moments between Prinze's character and his brother also hit okay. It's a fun baseball movie, but a mid-to-low-romantic comedy. All that said, I watch it at least twice a year.
It's a huge guilty pleasure for me and I have found that I really like watching Freddie Prinze Jr. Maybe it's the fact that he did a DC Heroes live play role playing game campaign a while back, or maybe it's that he just gives of "he's a nice guy and a hard worker in the industry" vibes. I'm on Team Prinze and now I'm going to rewatch a film with a 3% Rotten Tomatoes score because I kind of want him and the cast to get the $0.03 in residuals they'll get from my purchase.
I hated Prinze with a white-hot passion when I had to watch all his rom-coms. As a middle-aged man, and a guy who worked writing WWE for over a year just because he wanted to, he has my respect now.
Thanks for the shout-out, Christian, and for another fantastic WG Rundown!
Thank you so much for the shout out! Really appreciate and appreciate your insights!